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Lathes Centre diameters over 800 mm

Name of a product Inventory number Producer YOM Parameters  
SUS 80/2750

SUS 80/2750

251379 TOS Čelákovice Swing over bed: 840 mm
Distance between centres: 2750 mm
Max. weight of workpiece: 6000 kg
Swing over cross slide: 530 mm
Spindle bore: 82 mm
Spindle speed: 7 - 900 /min.
Heylingenstaedt

Heylingenstaedt

261258 Heylingenstaedt 1966 Swing over bed: 3000 mm
Distance between centres: mm
Max. weight of workpiece: 2500 kg
SIU 1600

SIU 1600

241565 ŠKODA MACHINE TOOL a.s. 1972 Swing over bed: 1600 mm
Distance between centres: 10000 mm
Max. weight of workpiece: 28000 kg
Spindle speed: 0 - 355 /min.
Swing over cross slide: 1200 mm
Machine dimensions l x w x h: 12000 x 2800 x 2400 mm
Zerbst DPS 1400x8000

Zerbst DPS 1400x8000

221295 WMW Swing over bed: mm
Max. diameter of workpiece: 1400 mm
Turning lenght: 8000 mm
TCA 160

TCA 160

261282 Poreba 1966 Swing over bed: 1600 mm
Distance between centres: 3000 mm
Max. weight of workpiece: 1500 kg
Main motor power: 40 kW
SR 2000x8

SR 2000x8

201865 ŠKODA MACHINE TOOL a.s. 1976 Swing over bed: 2000 mm
Distance between centres: 8000 mm
Max. weight of workpiece: 60000 kg
Machine weight: 36400 kg
Main motor power: 60 kW
Machine dimensions l x w x h: 14500 x 3600 x 2950 mm
FTC 200

FTC 200

241265 Tacchi Swing over bed: 2730 mm
Distance between centres: 10000 mm
Max. weight of workpiece: 70000 kg
Machine weight: 90000 kg
Spindle speed: 0 - 120 /min.
DP 3000

DP 3000

251653 Unknown 1957 Swing over bed: 1250 mm
Distance between centres: mm
Max. weight of workpiece: kg
Face plate diameter: 3000 mm
Swing over cross slide: 2200 mm
Machine weight: 17000 kg
SU 125/6000

SU 125/6000

251350 TOS Čelákovice Swing over bed: 1250 mm
Distance between centres: 6000 mm
Max. weight of workpiece: 8000 kg
Spindle bore: 115 mm
Swing over cross slide: 940 mm
SUS 80

SUS 80

251657 TOS Čelákovice Swing over bed: 840 mm
Distance between centres: 3500 mm
Max. weight of workpiece: kg
Machine weight: 7200 kg
Machine dimensions l x w x h: 5800x1750x1400 mm
Spindle bore: 82 mm
TR 90/4000

TR 90/4000

251055 Poreba 1954 Swing over bed: 900 mm
Distance between centres: 4000 mm
Max. weight of workpiece: kg
SN 50 C/1500

SN 50 C/1500

241775 TOS Trenčín 2002 Swing over bed: 500 mm
Distance between centres: 1500 mm
Max. weight of workpiece: kg
Swing over cross slide: 220 mm
Main motor power: 5,5 kW
Machine weight: 1750 kg
TCG 125x5000

TCG 125x5000

231070 Poreba 1984 Swing over bed: 1250 mm
Distance between centres: 5000 mm
Max. weight of workpiece: 30000 kg
Turning lenght: 5000 mm
SUS 63/1250

SUS 63/1250

241137 TOS Čelákovice Swing over bed: 630 mm
Distance between centres: 1250 mm
Max. weight of workpiece: 6000 kg
Swing over cross slide: 530 mm
Main motor power: 18 kW
Spindle bore: 82 mm

Technical Analysis: Power Kinematics and Structural Stability

For conventional lathes with a swing over 800 mm (e.g., TOS SUS 80/100/125, Poręba, Škoda, or Ryazan), the dominant parameter is the frame's absorption capacity against shocks. When machining workpieces weighing dozens of tons with large overhangs, the cutting process generates low-frequency vibrations that, in modern light constructions, lead to resonance and tool edge destruction.

Key Technical Causality Factors:

  • Bed Width and Configuration: Machines in this category feature beds often exceeding 800 mm in width, providing a broad support base for the carriage. This geometric mass distribution minimizes specific pressure on the guideways, radically slowing down mechanical wear (abrasion).
  • Headstock Torque Characteristics: For diameters over 800 mm, a multi-stage mechanical gearbox is essential. This transforms motor power into extreme torque at low RPM (single digits), critical for roughing stainless forgings or high-toughness castings.
  • Hydraulic Tailstock Reinforcement: A massive tailstock with a large diameter quill (e.g., 150–250 mm) serves as a secondary stabilizer of the kinematic chain, eliminating workpiece deflection under cutting forces.

Strategic Block: Asset Lifecycle and Economic Efficiency

For an investor, a heavy conventional lathe is a niche asset with a very low rate of moral obsolescence. While CNC electronics degrade within 10–15 years, the mechanical base of a heavy lathe made of high-quality grey cast iron (GG30) retains its properties for decades.

Benefit Analysis:

  • Reduced CAPEX per Ton of Performance: The purchase price of a used machine in this weight category is a fraction of a new machine's price, while the 'metal removal rate' remains identical.
  • Independence from Proprietary Service: The absence of closed software systems allows for in-house maintenance, eliminating 'vendor lock-in' and shortening downtime during peripheral system failures.

3 Counter-Intuitive Advantages of Heavy Conventional Lathes:

  1. Damping of Tool Harmonics: The massive weight of the carriage and bed acts as a passive filter. This allows the use of longer tool holders and boring bars without needing expensive tunable anti-vibration systems.
  2. Thermal Inertia During Heavy Roughing: The large volume of oil in the gearbox and massive castings dissipate heat better during continuous five-hour roughing, preventing local overheating of spindle bearings.
  3. Use as 'Universal Preparation': These machines often serve to 'peel' raw workpieces (removing the hardened skin of castings), saving expensive and precise CNC centers from high wear during these 'dirty' operations.